until someone finds a hot fudge planet

[dianora2]

Went in to work late due to a freaking horrible headache this morning -- it's these shifts in the weather, I swear. Cold then warm then cold then warm -- my head is screaming at me. Ugh. Luckily felt well enough to meet up with leftofcenternyc for dinner, where we were scrutinized openly and rudely by the Texans sitting next to us. It was...weird, and slightly amusing. Yes, yes, New Yorkers in their natural habitat, please don't talk to us, okay? Also, our waiter looked like he had a black eye, and Texas lady said to him, "How did you get that black eye?" and the waiter said, "It's not a black eye, it's a birthmark." OMG. Seriously, people. You think you're being friendly and folksy or whatever but you are being RUDE. STOP IT. It was also depressing that we were at Brooklyn Diner, land of glorious kugel and other many yummy things, and everyone, every tourista in there, was eating a burger and fries. So sad. Okay, I promise I will stop bitching about tourtists now.

Afterward we ventured into Toys R Us in Times Square (I KNOW) and actually made it out alive. And I got the nephew shopping done. Woo hoo!

Then I came home and watched Battlestar Galactica which has killed me dead from awesomeness. I am writing from beyond the grave. I had seen inklings that there would be shippy stuff this week, but...OMG. Wow. Let me talk about the other stuff first, though:

Really really want to know if there is a reason that Tyrol was drawn to the shrine other than authorial convenience. Really liked the insight into his backstory about having a religious upbringing, and I was charmed by his sharing his knowledge with Roslin and Adama. The temple/shrine/whatever itself was extremely cool looking, and they effectively conveyed a sense of size and awe on first viewing. Well done. (Also, I would LOVE a hot fudge planet. OMG. Hee.)

I love Gaius, and the scenes on Galactica underscored why. He was genuinely, sincerely, happy to see Laura and couldn't quite grasp how she could possibly hate him so much. He felt like he was "home" when everyone on that ship sees him as a traitor to the human race. And yet, he still has a healthy enough sense of self-preservation to be horrified when Dean Stockwell offers to give him up. (Which was hilarious, btw.) He's so naive in some ways, probably because he doesn't have well-adjusted human emotions, but still so ruthlessly self-preserving in others. I adore him and I miss who he used to be, the unhinged comical genius on Galactica, so very much.

I also hate that he's stuck having all these scenes with D'Anna. Ugh. Is Tricia Helfer too busy with her Canada's Next Top Model duties or something? WTF. I felt so sorry for Caprica when she confronted the two others. Oh, the cautionary tales of threesomes!

Man, Boomer is a bitch. LOL. So, someone please help me out/remind me -- did Adama not know that Laura did the Hera switch? I'm guessing he didn't because damn, was he pissed at her (and that was an awesome scene). But then, was he letting Sharon and Helo think that he DID know? I was very confused. (Loved Helo bringing up Zak, btw.)

The ending was crazy tense, wow. Excellent pacing job. I can't believe we have to wait five weeks, DAMMIT.

As for the Lee/Kara stuff:

When Lee left Dee at the beginning, I thought to myself, "Oh my god, I bet they are totally already having an affair," and I WAS TOTALLY RIGHT. AWESOME. And the kissing was so. freaking. hot. Holy hell. Wow. Um. Yeah. And what I love is that cheating is so not what Lee is about, but he can't help himself because he LOVES her, and the pull is just too strong. Even as he hates himself for it. And that's reason #523 their love is fucked up, because here it's making him be someone he's not. I loved that of course he was the one who wanted to talk about it, though -- he's so the girl in that relationship. ;)

At first I thought the idea of Kara resisting divorce due to religious reasons was interesting, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's bullshit. Because a) Lee is right, you're disgracing those vows every time you're with him; and b) if that sacrament is so holy to you, maybe you shouldn't have DONE IT ON IMPULSE THE NIGHT AFTER FUCKING SOMEONE ELSE. I don't know who she thinks she's kidding, although, maybe that is the point, the only person she is fooling is herself, and fooling herself is what Kara does best. Because otherwise she'd have to actually go through with the divorce, and it would be messy and ugly and then she would have to give herself to Lee completely and that scares the hell out of her. Such a convenient roadblock, right Kara?

And I loved that Lee was the one to pull away, and I love that he's so conflicted about this. And I love that it's out there that they desperately want each other but are penned in on all sides. And I love that Lee has to underscore that it IS a big deal. Of course it's a big deal -- he LOVES you. Oh, Kara, you fucked up so much when you left Lee sleeping on the ground that morning.

Clearly, the simple, obvious solution is for Sam to die. ;) I will now await that development since you know it's coming. I actually thought it might even come this episode, leaving Kara wracked with guilt and thus putting up a new roadblock, but I still feel like it will happen eventually.

And despite all the kissing my favorite exchange was "Can I make a suggestion you won't like?" / "Do you make any other kind?" LOVE.

Love that both Dee and Sam are openly hostile about Lee/Kara, and why shouldn't they be. What I'm wondering is, why aren't THEY talking about divorce? It seems odd that Lee and Kara apparently have all the power. There are two other people involved after all.

And yet, Sam really started throwing the word "wife" around a lot when Kara was in danger. It didn't bother me at all that Lee wasn't going after her because he's a soldier and he has his orders and besides, Kara would spit nails if he put the mission in jeopardy to save her ass (and Lee totally knows that because he knows Kara better than Sam does, but I digress). But it was a nice contrast between civilian and military responses and showed the depth of feeling that Sam still has for Kara. Plus Lee and Sam were both all sweaty and glistening and sleeveless. Yum.

What's the verdict on Sam's line about Lee not being the first? (Loved Lee's look of shock, btw. Hee.) Personally I think he's full of shit and just said it to piss off Lee, but on the other hand, she doesn't seem to think cheating is much of a big deal...

Anyway, we know from the previews that Lee orders Dee to go after Kara (to appease Sam, or of his own volition?). I thought it was interesting that the preview tried to make us think that Kara was hugging Lee when she was clearly hugging Sam. Will her brush with death make her want to try to work things out with Sam? I don't know, but I can't wait to find out. It's all so angsty and twisted and doomed and I love it. Sigh.

Also, I laughed my ass off at the BSG online commercial where they showed an IM window and someone was saying "Starbuck belongs with Apollo." HA HA HA HA. YES INDEED.

There will be icons. Oh yes, there will be. There may even be fic, if I can get this stupid J/D ficlet done in the next 24 hours.

OK, I need to go to bed, holy lord. Need to get up at a decent hour and figure out what to do about the rest of my Christmas shopping.

Yay for appropriate mood theme images.

Comments

[skywaterblue.livejournal.com]

Well, the thing I like about Gaius is that he's never really intentionally evil. Rather, he kind of trips over it and then has to look for his glasses.

I also still think it was SO WEIRD in the first season where everyone treats Gaius suspiciously. He's quite obviously batcakes, but then again: none of them knew him to say he wasn't before, and you would think there would be a lot of people having mental breakdowns after the end of the world.

It's too bad that he's the herald of a new era and all that. Sucks to be you, Laura Roslin.

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

Well, the thing I like about Gaius is that he's never really intentionally evil. Rather, he kind of trips over it and then has to look for his glasses.

Ha! Yes, indeed.

He's quite obviously batcakes, but then again: none of them knew him to say he wasn't before

Yeah, and I think there was a lot of "well, geniuses are often a bit eccentric" attitude playing into that. And he could still seem so smooth and in control when he really concentrated. *g*

It's too bad that he's the herald of a new era and all that. Sucks to be you, Laura Roslin.

*snerk*

[em-meredith.livejournal.com]

What you said! Yes, yes, yes! OMG!!

Except for the wanting Sam to die, cause I think he's kind of awesome.

And I want fic from you!

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

Oh, I like Sam a lot. (Also, he's really hot.) But narratively speaking his death is the obvious solution. *g*

[bbennett.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, I can practically assure you the Texans had no idea what "kugel" is.

I'm convinced at least 20% of the bad driving in DC and likely a similiar percentage in NYC comes from out of towners who're so convinced everyone else is going to drive crazily that they do it preemptively. "No, really, Martha, Bob told me when he was here in '87 that if you don't drive DE-fensively they'll run you right off the road! It's 'cuz of all them foreigners.".

:sigh

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, I can practically assure you the Texans had no idea what "kugel" is.

Well, yeah. I wonder if they even asked, though. I mean, you KNOW I am not an adventurous eater, and I would have asked. Hrm. Plus there was potroast and meatloaf and lasagna and skirt steak and macaroni and cheese (which is AWESOME there) and....shit, now I want to go back.

[bbennett.livejournal.com]

If I didn't have plans, I'd jump in the car and go with you.

:thinks of macaroni and begins to drool

[lzbrt.livejournal.com]

There's always my post Christmas visit. ;)

[oeilade.livejournal.com]

The mere mention of the words "brooklyn" and "diner" makes me want to go! And then you gotta throw in "kugel" and "skirt steak"?!?! That's just cruel.

[telaryn.livejournal.com]

What's the verdict on Sam's line about Lee not being the first? (Loved Lee's look of shock, btw. Hee.) Personally I think he's full of shit and just said it to piss off Lee, but on the other hand, she doesn't seem to think cheating is much of a big deal...

Heh -- welcome to the heart of the post *I'm* getting ready to write.

The important thing in that conversation in my opinion wasn't "you don't think you're the first, do you?", it was Sam's: "I know my wife."

Anders has always accepted Kara for who she is -- part of the reason why she ended up running from him in Collaborators. He would have accepted what Leoben did to her, and I think on some level she knew that. Because she couldn't face it in herself, she couldn't look at him -- her other wing -- and see that it might *not* actually be a failure on her part.

Do I think there were one night stands on New Caprica? Oh yes. Probably fueled by impulse and alcohol and Kara's innate need to see if she could push Sam away by showing him what a rotten human being she is.

Where the involvement with Lee is different is that there is emotion there -- tons of frakked up, unresolved emotion. Lee is the love Kara wants to be worthy of. I don't for one second think that he loves Kara Thrace. I think he loves who he *thinks* Kara Thrace is.

Lee is not a one night stand, and Kara's feelings for Lee are old baggage that has nothing to do with her struggle to accept her feelings for Sam and his for her. That's why I think Sam is frustrated.

Why he's pissed is that Lee insists on pretending there's nothing going on -- which frankly is an insult to Ander's (and Dee's) intelligence.

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

Probably fueled by impulse and alcohol and Kara's innate need to see if she could push Sam away by showing him what a rotten human being she is.

Yeah, I could buy that.

I don't for one second think that he loves Kara Thrace. I think he loves who he *thinks* Kara Thrace is.

I completely disagree with this, but that shouldn't surprise you. *g*

Why he's pissed is that Lee insists on pretending there's nothing going on -- which frankly is an insult to Ander's (and Dee's) intelligence.

True. At the same time, I think that's the natural reaction. All four of them could really be handling this better -- but if they were, it wouldn't be nearly as much fun to watch. ;)

[telaryn.livejournal.com]

don't for one second think that he loves Kara Thrace. I think he loves who he *thinks* Kara Thrace is.

I completely disagree with this, but that shouldn't surprise you. *g*

Oh it totally doesn't. :) The interesting thing to me is, since the person at the point of this triangle (Kara) is so totally in denial about who she is and her own self-worth, we're all pretty much rolling the dice on what we think is going on here.

Why he's pissed is that Lee insists on pretending there's nothing going on -- which frankly is an insult to Ander's (and Dee's) intelligence.

True. At the same time, I think that's the natural reaction. All four of them could really be handling this better -- but if they were, it wouldn't be nearly as much fun to watch. ;)

Oh agreed! This is the kind of triangle soap operas used to be really good at -- where any pairing could win out in the end and the reasons would be sound and perfectly in character for the participants.

[chanel19.livejournal.com]

I can't believe you went to the Times Square Toys R Us. You are so brave.

I'm still waiting for you to BSG fic so I can care about the show. That's all I'm saying.

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

The things I will do for my nephew! Although it was so overwhelming that I forgot I also wanted to pick up something for Toys for Tots. Need to figure out an easier way to do that.

You would probably really like BSG. I think. I'm intimidated to do fic, though. We shall see.

[cre8tiveye.livejournal.com]

While I cannot offer comments about BSG as I've never seen a single episode , I *can* comment on your mood icon. Satisfied, indeed.

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

Hee. It really is so very perfect. :)

[lzbrt.livejournal.com]

*eyeroll* Tourists annoy the crap out of me and I don't even live there. I promise to never act like an ass when I am visiting your city. :)

I really should start to watch the BSG episodes for this season, huh? Maybe I'll try to catch up during the hiatus, although I think I'm destined to always be behind with this show.

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

LJ ATE MY COMMENT. DAMMIT. *tries to recreate*

I promise to never act like an ass when I am visiting your city. :)

The city of New York thanks you. (What's the deal with your visit, anyway? Let me know.)

As for BSG, if you are even the tiniest bit of a Lee/Kara shipper, you should definitely watch this season. And even if you're not. With the exception of a couple of rough patches, it's been very good.

[laurezz24.livejournal.com]

Every time you post about BSG, I remember that I should watch this show.

[dianora2.livejournal.com]

You should! I never expected to like it this much, myself.

[sarmoti.livejournal.com]

if that sacrament is so holy to you, maybe you shouldn't have DONE IT ON IMPULSE THE NIGHT AFTER FUCKING SOMEONE ELSE.

Heeee! Such a good point, and I hadn't even thought of that aspect of her hypocrisy cause I was already laughing at the hypocrisy of "marriage is a sacrament...*shoves tongue into non-husband's mouth*" Yeah I get where she's coming from, and I'm sure some people in real life have those same views re: marriage-is-sacred-so-I'm-not-ending-it-even-though-it's not-what-I-want-and-I'm-treating-my-spouse-like-shit, but it's still quite ridiculous to watch.

And yet I don't really care because HOT HOT HOT.

And despite all the kissing my favorite exchange was "Can I make a suggestion you won't like?" / "Do you make any other kind?" LOVE.

That was great cause it was old school Lee and Kara. It's the kind of thing he would've said to her back in S1, so it's fun to see them have little moments like that, where we see they're still THEM even though now everything is weird and they're married to other people and in a crazy love square.

I thought it was interesting that the preview tried to make us think that Kara was hugging Lee when she was clearly hugging Sam

Those promo monkeys don't fool us with their trickery! Damn, and Lee's gonna have to act all "Yay, Dee, you're alive!!!!" when he was really more worried about Kara. Not that he wouldn't be happy to see Dee is safe too, but you know what I mean. And he's gonna emo it when he sees Sam/Kara reunited after the rescue. I'm really curious to see what happens with all those relationships after this. But seriously, Dee, why are you still married to him??!! I'm definitely looking forward to see more of Dee's perspective on all this in the next episode. She'll do her duty, save Kara because that was the assignment she was given, but it's gonna tear her up, and I'm excited to finally see Kara/Dee confrontation, which we got a little taste of in the mission-planning scene this week.

Wow, I ramble. Time to post this comment.

[bop-radar.livejournal.com]

Yup, I started thinking 'ZOMG: AFFAIR' in that scene with Dee too. And I was very amused by his eager scramble to the raptor. ;-) And Kara's knowing-who's-coming smirk. And wow, YES, affair! I kind of like that it's vague how far they've really gone, but I they were steaming up the windows pretty damn well! :-)

I have this horrible feeling that whatever happens, it's going to wind up with Kara returning to Sam. Grrr.

And despite all the kissing my favorite exchange was "Can I make a suggestion you won't like?" / "Do you make any other kind?" LOVE.
That was glorious! One of their best moments ever. *beams*

[willagurl.livejournal.com]

I have this really weird feeling that even though OBVIOUSLY Kara would be pissed if Lee jeopardized the mission, that they are going to use it in some way to break off the Lee/Kara affair. Like, "Sam wanted to come after me, and you're so uptight you had to send your disposable WIFE, so I'm going to love Sam more." Even though, of course, she doesn't actually love Sam, she just has residual guilt about leaving him behind coupled with lust because hello! Hot arms.

Also, "I'm going to bring Starbuck back to Apollo." GAG. Oh, kill me. Dee is the most annoying character in this foursome, because she married Lee KNOWING he was in love with Kara. Idiot.